Wednesday, 7 March 2012

#CMEchat 7th March

On practical tips for post-tests and summative assessment in CME.

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http://www.internettime.com/2012/03/checklist-transforming-corporate-learning/
http://www.CMEadvocate.com

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#totd #notfollowingyou #hallwayconvos 

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@briansmcgowan @drerikbrady @improvecme @thecmeguy @brenstrong

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@BrianSMcGowan2 hours until #CMEchat - discussing specific & practical tips for managing post-tests & summative assessment. What do you ask? W11AM EST
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 08:58:43 -0500)
@theCMEguyRT @BrianSMcGowan : 2 hours until #CMEchat - discussing specific & practical tips for managing post-tests & summative assessment. What do you ask? W11AM EST
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 09:09:43 -0500)
@HearMeRoaringRT @BrianSMcGowan : RT @jaycross : Checklist: transforming corporate learning http://t.co/HHG67Rc4 #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 09:32:27 -0500)
@CynthiaDEngelRT @BrianSMcGowan : The new golden rule for educators: measure twice. teach once. #CMEchat #lrnchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 09:34:06 -0500)
@spelletierDon't miss #CMEchat at 11 ET: specific & practical tips for managing post-tests & summative assessment. #cmechat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:46:21 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowansettling in for a rapid fire #CMEchat ...starting in 10 minutes!
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:50:23 -0500)
@theCMEguy? @BrianSMcGowan : settling in for a rapid fire #CMEchat ...starting in 10 minutes!?>> & of course I have a last sec conf call. Double duty!
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:58:56 -0500)
@CMEChatWelcome to #CMEchat . All discussions herein are assumed to be personal opinion & not that of current, past, or future employers.
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:59:24 -0500)
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(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:59:31 -0500)
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(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:59:37 -0500)
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(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:59:42 -0500)
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(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:59:50 -0500)
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(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:59:57 -0500)
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(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:00:02 -0500)
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(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:00:07 -0500)
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(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:00:12 -0500)
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(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:00:15 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowangood Wednesday morning to all in the #CMEchat ...and for all of those lurking...lots to learn today!
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:00:52 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowani am honored (in a sick way) by the recent #CMEchat spam...
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:01:36 -0500)
@dean_jenkins#cmechat hello. Dean Jenkins UK.
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:02:00 -0500)
@rmtynerMichelle from Indiana - lurking today #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:02:05 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowanbeautiful day shaping up in the US NE...even if my washer and dryer never did appear this AM at my doorstep #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:02:32 -0500)
@Sarah_drmatt1Hi everyone. Happy to be joining you all for #CMEchat from here in the UK again. Who else is with us today?
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:02:51 -0500)
@theCMEguyDerek in Chestnut Hill. Pulling double duty today #cmechat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:02:58 -0500)
@kenny_cox#cmechat Kenny Cox from Missouri but in New Jersey today
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:03:15 -0500)
@drerikbradyErik, here, but packing, leaving on a jet plane this afternoon #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:03:19 -0500)
@MedPedsDoctorAlex Djuricich, Assoc Dean of CME from Indiana Univ SOM. Just down the road from @rmtyner #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:03:30 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowanhopefully @dpguinee was able to avoid jury duty this AM and will be joining #CMEchat --> whouldn't want him deciding my fate!
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:03:35 -0500)
@dpguineeDaniel Guinee, Freehold, NJ, USA...I've filled my civic obligation and have been released from jury duty! #cmechat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:04:06 -0500)
@theCMEguy? @drerikbrady : Erik, here, but packing, leaving on a jet plane this afternoon #CMEchat ? >> Dont know where you're gonna go? #JohnDenver
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:04:12 -0500)
@CMEChatWe have talked about assessment a few times over the past 10 months; today we focus in on post-test/summative assessment #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:04:28 -0500)
@laureneroLauren here from Maryland. Happy Wednesday! #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:04:55 -0500)
@rmtyner@MedPedsDoctor still reeling from the breaking news about #18 #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:05:14 -0500)
@drerikbrady@theCMEguy Palm Springs, talking about question item writing with my good friends at Annenberg #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:05:25 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowanpost-test AKA immediate assessment has gotten a bad rap over the years...but it is a vital component of what we do. #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:05:30 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowanand condolences to our Indianapolis friends our #CMEchat flag is at half mast today
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:06:15 -0500)
@CMEChatT1 ? Describe your post-test planning process. At what point are ???s drafted? How are they refined and/or validated? #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:06:31 -0500)
@drerikbrady@BrianSMcGowan Agree, that's exactly the right time to measure intent to change #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:06:39 -0500)
@MedPedsDoctor@BrianSMcGowan ... But a flag in another city will move to double mast. Phoenix, Miami, Jet-country??? #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:07:29 -0500)
@theCMEguyT1: Are we being honest or saying what we're supposed to say? #cmechat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:07:49 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowant1 - seems that as needs and objectives are rounding into form the basic goal of the post-test should be coming clear... #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:07:50 -0500)
@drerikbradyT1 - i'm a BIG believer in drafting outcomes ?s alongside the LOs, it's dead useful for keeping content development on track #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:08:17 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowant1 - to be intentionally trite, 'it is never too early to begin to craft your assessment plan...' #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:08:26 -0500)
@MedPedsDoctorIdeally, ??s are drafted ahead of time, but should probably be modified depending on actual learning session itself #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:08:49 -0500)
@rmtynera little of both?? RT @theCMEguy : T1: Are we being honest or saying what were supposed to say? #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:09:02 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowanthis is not a presidential debate...RT @theCMEguy : T1: Are we being honest or saying what we're supposed to say? #cmechat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:09:09 -0500)
@reginamotarjemeRegina in Denver, yesterday in shorts, today in the snow #cmechat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:09:56 -0500)
@drerikbradyT1 - we insist that the faculty set out with the end in mind, got a few ?s that work well to help them think about that #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:09:57 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowant1 - lets try more details...please #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:10:27 -0500)
@MedPedsDoctorTo me, $1million is how to implement getting post-test questions asked, with appropriate follow up if not completed #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:10:44 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowanRT @Sarah_drmatt1 : Learning & assessment have common areas & may overlap but not 1:1. Sometimes lrning areas difficult to measure. #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:10:57 -0500)
@drerikbrady@thecmeguy It's one of the great crimes in CPD. Whenever I hear that ?s are an afterthought, I want to take a shower #CMEchat #yucky
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:11:25 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowant1 - any advice on refining and 'validating' ?'s #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:11:37 -0500)
@Sarah_drmatt1@BrianSMcGowan Have some experience teaching ethics/ values and it is a particular issue here. #CMEchat .
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:12:18 -0500)
@kenny_coxDefinitely drafting questions at the same time as LOs - we use a grid that brings gaps/needs/LOs/outcomes together. #cmechat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:12:31 -0500)
@theCMEguy@drerikbrady So u develop ?'s before content, then confirm ?'s once content developed? #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:12:50 -0500)
@CMEChatT2 ? What methods do you use to analyze post-test performance? Do you attempt to meet statistical rigor? If so, how? #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:13:20 -0500)
@drerikbradyT1 - We ask "what do we want to see the learners doing differently after participation?" - that informs the item writing #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:13:21 -0500)
@drerikbrady@thecmeguy That's always the plan. I review all outcomes questions, and i am reviewing them well before the content is finalized #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:14:38 -0500)
@dpguineeWe connect pre and post directly to lrng objctvs, which typically are addressed via case examples in the activity #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:15:11 -0500)
@MedPedsDoctorMy educational mentor kept it very simple: "the objectives describe the test". #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:15:31 -0500)
@theCMEguyT2: As much as possible, I try to have a pre to compare my post to. Does post alone really show anything? #cmechat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:15:32 -0500)
@brenstrong@BrianSMcGowan @theCMEguy @drerikbrady #cmechat - that's what I'd do!
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:15:55 -0500)
@dpguineeMajor teaching challenge...getting faculty to buy in to the value, and once done, getting participants to value the pre-post. #cmechat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:16:16 -0500)
@drerikbrady@medpedsdoctor I've found the real issue to be a lack of competence in our space on good item writing design #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:16:16 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowan@dpguinee - so there may not be a need for a post test if you structure interactivity properly? #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:16:21 -0500)
@kenny_coxCan be formulaic, but makes you think when you write a LO and have to write the outcomes ?? to show you achieved it #cmechat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:16:33 -0500)
@theCMEguy@BrianSMcGowan Think I agree. Also maybe depends on amount of responses? Can you achieve stat sig with 10 responses? #cmechat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:16:35 -0500)
@improvecmeT2 I encourage pre/post/follow-up question development in parallel with content development, closely linked to LOs and needs #CMEChat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:16:51 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowanT2 - does advocating for research quality assessment support faculty engagement vs 'throwaway' questions #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:17:14 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowan#TOTD RT @drerikbrady : @medpedsdoctor I've found the real issue to be a lack of competence in our space on good item writing design #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:17:26 -0500)
@MedPedsDoctorErik is right on: "real issue: lack of competence on good item writing design". Maybe a CME session on "how to write good ?s"? #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:17:34 -0500)
@dpguineeTheoretically RT @briansmcgowan : @dpguinee - so there may not be a need for a post test if you structure interactivity properly? #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:17:56 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowan@theCMEguy IF 10 = N; if 10 = n...perhaps not #cmechat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:18:08 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowan@MedPedsDoctor ..Alex please meet @improvecme - u2 shld submit an abstact for #acehp13 #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:18:50 -0500)
@drerikbradyT2 - we do stats (p values) for items and signif (effect size) for overall activity effect, we don't generally have probs with n's #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:18:51 -0500)
@drerikbrady@MedPedsDoctor I did an intensive on this 2 years ago and have an "abstract" in development for ACEPH13 #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:19:34 -0500)
@Sarah_drmatt1@MedPedsDoctor Possibly a key issue is that people think 'knowing the subject' is the same as 'writing good questions' on it. #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:19:36 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowanRT @improvecme : T2 ....well-organized measurement w/early faculty buy-in can get good faculty support. #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:19:43 -0500)
@MedPedsDoctorHow many CME units have a psychometrician on board? #betnotthatmany #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:19:46 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowan@Sarah_drmatt1 - and they think content expertise = teaching expertise this is why i belive people are stoopid! #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:20:25 -0500)
@improvecmeT2 #CMEChat There are recent Almanac articles on how to get faculty on board with pre/post questions and their value to adult learning.
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:20:32 -0500)
@CMEChatT3 ? Are there unique post-test questions that you have asked? If so, what are they and what were you trying to learn? #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:20:40 -0500)
@MedPedsDoctorThe medical community has been arguing about whether "the boards" is a valid test. Amt of time spent on good ?s: enormous! #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:21:13 -0500)
@2healthguru@BrianSMcGowan if i may, once upon a time CME's roots were medical quality audited, & needs directed v. marketing affair. #TOTD #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:21:31 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowant1/2/3 - i love when the #CMEchat drafted questions seem to match the conversation like a hand in glove
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:21:35 -0500)
@drerikbrady@MedPedsDoctor Agree few, but it's not necessary, a well constructed excel will take care of the heavy lifting #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:21:50 -0500)
@theCMEguy@MedPedsDoctor About the same amount as there are NFL teams releasing HOF QB's... #cmechat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:21:57 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowan@2healthguru - you may....and in may hallways of medicine they have moved back from marketing taint, but forgot needs part... #TOTD #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:22:28 -0500)
@improvecmeT3 #CMEchat Current & planned frequency of use of evidence-based clinical practice strategies recommended in content & found deficient in NA
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:22:50 -0500)
@MedPedsDoctor@theCMEguy ... it's all about the money ... #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:22:52 -0500)
@drerikbradyT3 - umm, all of our outcomes questions are unique... #CMEchat #notfollowingyou
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:22:54 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowan@2healthguru - it is a work in progress...to be sure...but not b/c of marketing as much as lack of sophistication and skill.. #TOTD #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:23:10 -0500)
@brenstrongT2 #CMEChat There's an excellent article on working with SMEs to determine the information people need to *use* (vs *know*). I'll post later
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:23:16 -0500)
@MedPedsDoctorRemember that sometimes the "learning" can come in other ways which can't be measured: #hallwayconvos #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:23:34 -0500)
@improvecmeT3 #CMEChat Current & Planned frequency of use 1=Never to 5=Always. Measures competence change/commitment to change.
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:24:08 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowant3 - has any1 used the "how many patients of this type do you see a week?" to get at potential clinical impact/relevance #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:24:08 -0500)
@brenstrongRT @ @drerikbrady T3 - umm, all of our outcomes questions are unique... #CMEchat #notfollowingyou <+1
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:24:27 -0500)
@dpguineeNot to go far afield, but we are finding the social learning elements to be of far more value than that which we can "post test" #cmechat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:24:34 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowant3 - truly not all forms of learning can be measured, but we need to measure what can be measured, lest we be measured harshly #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:25:10 -0500)
@rmtyner@BrianSMcGowan we asked that question in all of our activities #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:25:25 -0500)
@dpguineeRoutinely, in surveys and post. Thx @improvecme RT @briansmcgowan : t3 - the "how many patients of this type do you see a week?" #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:25:41 -0500)
@drerikbrady@BrianSMcGowan T3 - we use it as a demographics question at baseline, we ask as few questions as necessary at post #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:25:48 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowan@dpguinee - hey black swan...please focus ;-) #cmechat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:26:00 -0500)
@MedPedsDoctorRight on, Brian. Just like "improvement science": can't improve if we don't measure #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:26:16 -0500)
@kenny_cox@BrianSMcGowan We use that on every evaluation #cmechat patients per week with this issue
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:26:23 -0500)
@drerikbrady@improvecme I prefer the 7 point semantic diff scale, but i like these freq of use questions too #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:26:28 -0500)
@2healthguru@BrianSMcGowan yup, tone has changed since I surveyed programs for California Medical Association. Time to reclaim! #TOTD #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:26:31 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowan#brilliant RT @drerikbrady : T3 - we use it as a demographics question at baseline, we ask as few questions as necessary at post #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:26:35 -0500)
@improvecmeT3 #CMEchat # of patients w/condit seen/wk used everytime then crosstab w/those who increase their freq of use 2 get potential + pt impact
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:26:41 -0500)
@reginamotarjemeRT @drerikbrady : @BrianSMcGowan T3 - we use it as a demographics question at baseline, we ask as few questions as necessary at post #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:27:16 -0500)
@drerikbradyVERY smart. T3 #CMEchat # of patients w/condit seen/wk used everytime then crosstab w/those who inc. their freq of use 2 get pot + pt impact
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:28:10 -0500)
@MedPedsDoctorTo clarify: when you say "post-test ?s", do you mean immediate (i.e., at end of session), or some time later (e.g., 3 months)? #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:28:19 -0500)
@CMEChatt3 - so how can we aggregate all of the 'pts like this seen per week data into one research finding..." #CMEchat @improvecme @drerikbrady
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:28:41 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowan@MedPedsDoctor - immediate #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:29:10 -0500)
@drerikbrady@CMEChat Eval has a question about whether we can follow up and spot for an email, but we have room for growth here #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:29:25 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowanT4 - dare i say the use of a jeopardy-like game to close a symposium wld serve as post-test AND feedback mechanism #CMEchat #TOTD ;-)
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:30:09 -0500)
@MedPedsDoctorI think that there are now tools for immediate post-test assessment that make it easier for teacher: audience response systems #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:30:13 -0500)
@drerikbrady@CMEChat @improvecme I can't define the solution here yet. #bigchallenge #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:30:53 -0500)
@improvecmeT3 #CMEchat "pts seen per week into one research finding" -- been advocating for this for some time. Issues w/sharing results, but hopeful.
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:31:00 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowant4 - admittedly tough to drive meaningful feedback from post-test, if you collect them as they leave the room. must tie-in better. #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:31:11 -0500)
@2healthguru@BrianSMcGowan CME 'cruises a BIG business...' The AMA/PRA intent has been completely corrupted. Some exceptions yes. #TOTD #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:31:17 -0500)
@drerikbrady@BrianSMcGowan T4 - technology needs to support assigning the respondents though, ARS falls a little short, but texting... #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:31:58 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowan@2healthguru - i think you will find that this community moved beyond CME at Sea 5-7 yrs ago, now just a few grps & Hopkins ;-) #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:32:16 -0500)
@drerikbrady@improvecme True, Derek has been advocating for this for a while. I'm slow to this bandwagon. #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:33:23 -0500)
@MedPedsDoctor@drerikbrady Really? If one sets up demographic ?s in ARS, it does the cross match for you. Works like a charm. #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:33:29 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowanT4 - ars + finger prints? as a form of assigning/confirming identity - too minority report/GATTICA/repo man? #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:33:33 -0500)
@dpguineeWhat if attendees were told their resps wld b part of rsrch project?? RT @briansmcgowan : t4 - meaningful feedback from post-test. #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:33:42 -0500)
@drerikbrady@BrianSMcGowan @2healthguru Oh snap. Slamming Hopkins. #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:33:51 -0500)
@CMEChatT5 ? Feedback is a vital piece of assessment. With ASYNCHRONOUS programs how do you provide feedback on post-test performance? #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:34:20 -0500)
@drerikbrady@MedPedsDoctor Ahh, pooling of data. I'm not a big supporter of that. I will always argue for matched data sets #CMEchat #datageek
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:35:18 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowanT5 - here we are much more evolved - adaptive branching assessments can even drive learning through testing (like GREs/SATs) #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:35:20 -0500)
@Sarah_drmatt1Signing out for today. Need to get the girlie from choir. #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:36:07 -0500)
@MedPedsDoctor@drerikbrady I'm not talking about pooling. I'm talking about matched data. TurningPoint does it beautifully. #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:36:23 -0500)
@dpguineeT5 - Feedback to participants, yes? Vis-a-vis outcomes reports to grant supporters... #cmechat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:36:23 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowanSinging out then? RT @Sarah_drmatt1 : Signing out for today. Need to get the girlie from choir. #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:36:25 -0500)
@brenstrongT5 #CMEchat We use staggered feedback process, providing more detailed feedback on specific q's, more general on sections (containing q's)
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:36:30 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowanT5 - remember the challange is arbitrarily been limited to post-tests... #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:37:08 -0500)
@brenstrongT5 #CMEchat We have 3 Levels feedback: Well done (pass), keep reading the literature!; Not great, take sections X again; Take course again
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:37:53 -0500)
@dpguineeAngelic RT @briansmcgowan : Singing out then? RT @Sarah_drmatt1 : Signing out for today. Need to get the girlie from choir. #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:37:54 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowanT5- i appreciate that this group would rather reflect on interactivity and formative assessment (even acute) bodes well... #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:37:55 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowanT5 - is there any way to provide post-test feedback with ole' school print based learning? #CMEchat >> cuz docs still use/like it
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:39:39 -0500)
@CMEChatThx for participating in #CMEchat . Discussions herein are assumed 2 b personal opinion & not that of current, past, or future employers.
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:40:04 -0500)
@improvecmeT5 A not-so-pregnant pause #CMEChat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:40:04 -0500)
@MedPedsDoctorLove @brenstrong 's 3 levels: well done, not great (take specific sections), repeat entire course. #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:40:10 -0500)
@CMEChatAs we get wrap up, please vote for the tweet of the day ( #TOTD ) seen during this week's #CMEchat .
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:40:10 -0500)
@CMEChatThe real impact of the #CMEchat lies in your action - please engage others to participate & take action on things your have learned! G?day!
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:40:13 -0500)
@BrianSMcGowant5 - @brenstrong isn't there a model of outcomes: aware, familiar, expert - three levels of learning/assessment #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:41:14 -0500)
@dpguineeThx @theCMEguy for today's #cmechat . Much to assess and think about, reflect on, put into action
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:42:13 -0500)
@MedPedsDoctorThis chat will push me to help teachers understand that post-test assessment is not an after-thought. #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:42:59 -0500)
@theCMEguy? @dpguinee : Thx @theCMEguy for today's #cmechat ." >> er...you're welcome? Thank @BrianSMcGowan ...he's the man.
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:45:41 -0500)
@dean_jenkinsRT @BrianSMcGowan : #TOTD RT @brenstrong : #CMEchat T1 - plan assessment before you develop content, by defining objectives and identifying how they are tested
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:51:17 -0500)
@2healthguru@BrianSMcGowan Good to hear. My experience is tethered to this convo via you and @meducate . "CME cruises meant generically' btw. #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 12:10:12 -0500)
@2healthguru@drerikbrady Not just @JohnsHopkins ... all commercial CME sponsors more concerned about pitching than fixing! Hopkins a model AMC! #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 12:15:38 -0500)
@lolshannon71RT @MedPedsDoctor : My educational mentor kept it very simple: "the objectives describe the test". #CMEchat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 12:34:17 -0500)
@drerikbrady@2healthguru @JohnsHopkins for the record, I did not slam Hopkins. #cmechat #notguilty
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 12:35:51 -0500)
@drerikbrady@MedPedsDoctor my mistake, meant to say, hard to couple with a post test in order to award credit to a person, matching is no issue #cmechat
(Wed, 07 Mar 2012 12:38:05 -0500)
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